My friend and college classmate Kamil died of leukemia!

:     fromyolvas@usa.net to Chon Chon Tang,

Three months ago, my friend and college classmate Kamil died of leukemia. He
was born in Aksu, a city quite close to Lopnor nuclear test site. Kamil died
when he was 32. I was very disturbed by his death. I don't know what to say.
Should I blame China's 46 nuclear tests or just look at it as a will of the
Almighty? Many Uyghurs died the same way since China tested nuclear devices in
1964 in East Turkistan.

According to a BBC documentary on China's nuclear tests in ET, the cancer rate
among the Uyghurs living near the test site is some 30% higher than rest of
China. Could some sympathetic Chinese go and explain to them about the rise of
life expectancy in the last fifty years or the growth of Uyghur population
under CCP? Statistics don't just lie. Sometimes it means nothing, especially
when it comes out of the mouth of CCP.

You seem to be someone who is for the development of ET and the Uyghurs.
However, in practice, the Uyghur nation has witnessed tremendous development
in their homeland in the past fifty years for the good of the colonizer at the
expense of the Uyghur people. I don't know how you call this in Chinese but in
Uyghur it is called the naked truth. Just look at Kashgar, the place where
Uyghurs are the majority, it is still a medieval town of 15th century. Look at
Shihezi, a place where there is almost none Uyghur, a rising modern city in
Chinese-style.

Xinhua always boasts of oil and natural gas reserves China found in ET.
PetroChina is hoping to contruct a pipeline from Tarim basin all the way to
Shanghai for the good of the Chinese. Robbing the natural resources of the
indigenous people and shipping them back to the motherland is the disease of
colonialism. In this sense, China is nothing but a colonizer. The Chinese oil
companies never employ any Uyghurs when they exploit the oild fields in ET in
the past five years.

You seem to be pretty good talking theories. If you have never been to the
place you call "Xinjiang--New Colony", go and see the lives of those Uyghurs
and other minorites under the "great leadership" of China. See who is in the
car, sky-scraper, restaurants, bars, office-buildings, police forces, big
industries and companies and government bodies. See for yourself who is
serving who and why. See who is the slave-master and who is the slave.

There has never been a good colonizer in human history. You may somewhat
sympathize the condition of the Uyghur people since it was artificially
created by your people. You probably feel guilty for the sins and crimes of
Chinese in our land. But you will not be any different from those Chinese
colonizers whom you condemn in your dreams if you don't respect our idealistic
visions of an independent East Turkestan. The Uyghurs are not seeking
something that belongs to you. The Uyghurs are reclaiming what has been
brutally taken away by ill-intentioned China.

So please don't tell us there are good colonizers. The Uyghurs don't buy that
any more since KMT and CCP have no difference. They are all Chinese.
I guess, it is wrong to generalize a people. However, it is not wrong to point
out that your national interest will take you right by your hand to the same
colonial goal, which is never let go the Uyghurs, Tibetans and the Inner
Mongolians without some heavy price.

One thing I hate very much in my life is that when the oppressed becomes the
oppressor when it gets power. It is unfortunate the CCP, a self-proclaimed
savior of China, is not any better than KMT and killed more Chinese than the
Japanese put together during WWII. I know one day CCP will go away since no
empire last forever. I wonder how the Uyghurs and Tibetans look at the Chinese
when they become free and independent one day. No idealism is far from the
reality. The fall of communist China is as much a reality to me as the fall of
the Soviet Union.

China and the Chinese people can't forget and forgive the crimes of Japanese
during WWII. How could China and the Chinese people expect the Uyghurs,
Tibetans, Mongolians and all the other minorities who are daily suffering
under the CCP to appreciate what they are doing in their land? There is a time
for everything under the sun. And there is a limit of patience. The patience
of Uyghurs has already run out...and no dictator from Beijing can put that in
a bottle any more.

If you think you are a wise Chines who can tell truth from folly and white
from black compared to your colonizer brethren. Tell them when you have any
opportunity what happens when the frustrated Uyghurs get power one day. Tell
them the history is not always on the side of Chinese like the 19th century.
Tell them that there is a heavy price for colonization. Tell them the Uyghur
problem will not simply go away just by hiding it. Tell them to treat the
Uyghurs just as you would have wanted them to treat you the same way since the
Uyghurs owe you nothing. Tell them the Chinese are not the eternal rulers of
ET, Tibet and Inner Mongolia.

Evil is not a straight line but a vicious cycle. It will eventually come back
and hunt down those who perpetuate it in the first place. Evil serves its
purpose at its own destruction. Colonization looks good until the last five
minutes of its breath. The Chinese who can see beyond the official CCP
propaganda may some day realize this. As for those who remain committed to the
official CCP progapanda, they are nothing but the victims of the corrupt
communist regime.

One last word to you, open your heart and put yourself in the shoes of the
Uyghurs and Tibetans China oppresses and kills. Then, look at yourself in a
mirror and ask yourself what kind of punishment the Chinese oppressors
deserve. If you think the Japanese have a lot to pay to the Chinese for its
crimes during WWII, then what are you planning to pay for the Uyghurs,
Tibetans, and Mongolians when the time comes? Remeber, there is a time for
everything under the sun. Trust me, the time will come sooner or later.

Yolvas.

From: Chon Chon Tang heechee97@yahoo.com 
                 Just using Chinese  government figures as  presented:    If nuclear testing started in 1964, then the  reduction in life expectancy for  people born after 1964 (3,200,000) would not be   reflected in the 1990 census   figures, as this only covers a period of 26 years.  Jack, I understand you qualified your data with a statement that "this isn't scientific", but surely you must understand that an estimated life expectancy of 45 doesn't mean there will be a large loss of  spontaneous death when people turn 40-45.  If this life expectancy number has any legitimacy at all, it would have been measured based on increased infant mortality rates, increased incidences of cancer, etc... there must've been an immediate affect on the populace, especially if the effect is as drastic as suggested (a near halving of the life expectancy). I can understand that some of the effects of atmospheric nuclear testing might only show up after some time (continued exposure leading to increased cancer rates, for example), but again, for the type of  effect that's being claimed here there must've been  some tremendous impact.  There seems to be no sign of that, and I have a hard  time believing that a population that has grown so
well in the past two decades (300,000 over the past 4 years, as opposed to 47,000 from 1949-1964) will all  of a sudden start keeling over in the streets.  I think it's safe to say that there was an  undesirable environmental impact from these tests that
negatively affected the  Uyghurs (and other surrounding  communities), and for that I have great sympathy for  this community (amongst others)... ... but I also think it's irresponsible to cast these tests in the light your FAQ tries to.  This was not part of some strange plot to apply genocide to the  Uyghur population, but at worst insensitive decisions  made by those who cared more about national defense  than individual rights. It smacks of a political agenda when you claim  otherwise.  That's my prevaling complaint.  I also want to take this opportunity to re-emphasize  a comment I made in a private email which might not've  made it onto the Uighur-L list  (probably because I  wasn't subscribed at the time).There seems to be a strong  sentiment that any economic development by the PRC in Xinjiang is just an element of a secondary (and darker) agenda: overwhelming local
culture... but consider the position I find myself.  I
would like to apply my time/efforts in order to better
the lives of the  underdeveloped rural poor in China,  especially the Far West in terms of both Tibet and  Xinjiang.   This is most likely just a pipe dream, but
for the sake of hypotheticals, let's take me as a  typical example of other well-trained but patriotic  Chinese.  Is that a worthy goal?  Is it a moral goal?  If I set  up a high-tech manufacturing  plant/company in  Xinjiang, will I still be despised as a Han colonizer?  Does  the Uygher activist community advocate closer  cooperation between the Han and Uyghers in Xinjiang,  if that leads to faster economic development in Xinjiang,  or is  "repatriation" of millions of Han Chinese the  desired outcome? I'm sure the  government in Beijing is less concerned than I am about the feelings of your   community, but  what would you say to them if they were actually  listening?  What's your "solution" beyond idealistic  visions of an independent Easterun Turkestan? 
From: Jack Churchward <trinley@churchward.com>
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The first nuclear detonation was carried out in October 1964.    According to Chinese government census figures(in millions):  Year     Uyghur  Total Percentage   1949     3.3      4.3      76%  1964     4.0      7.2      55%  1982     6.0     13.1      46%  1986     6.4     13.8      46% 1990     7.2     15.2      48% 1949-1964 700,000 increase over 15 years. (47,000) 1964-1982 2,000,000 increase over 18 years. (111,000)  1982-1986 400,000 increase over 4 years. (100,000) 1986-1990 1,200,000 increase over 4 years. (300,000) (The number in parenthesis indicates an approximate annual population  growth.)    Just using Chinese government figures as presented:   If nuclear testing started in 1964, then the reduction in life expectancy for   people born after 1964 (3,200,000) would not be reflected in the 1990 census  figures, as this only covers a period of 26 years.  The estimate quoted in the FAQ (40-45 years life  expectancy) will not be  reflected in population  figures even in the 2000  census. The  reduction in the  older half of the population would be overcome by the increase in births  between 1986-1990.  This is by no means a  scientific answer, only a brief look at the numbers. On  population, here is the entire text as cut from:  CHINESE POLICY,   HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES AND THE   CONSEQUENCES  http://www.caccp.org/et/etiu1.html
Until 1949, life expectancy in Eastern Turkestan was 65 years.  Eastern Turkestan had more centenarians than any other country in  Central Asia, with an average of one person per every 15,000.(63)  Current life expectancy is estimated to be around 40-45.(64) The  infant mortality rate in Eastern Turkestan is 200 per 1,000.(65) At  present because of the lack of proper medical treatment results in  that almost 70 percent of all illnesses are fatal.(66)  Notes:  63 The Gazette, Montreal, October 29, 1994.   64 Ibid.  65 Der Spiegel, No. 33, 1994. 66 The Gazette, op. cit.  Here is the version from the  Chinese government:
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/199904/14/enc_990414001009_Indepth.html
According to a Chinese government information published as an article in the
People's Daily, "Progress in China's Human Rights Conditions in 1998" the average life expectancy for Chinese people was 35 years, 50 years ago (1948).  It quotes the present average life  expectancy at 70.83 years and that figure  is "10 years elder than the average developing country."  http://member.netease.com/~chrys/china/HumanRightsE-8.html
The Chinese government  white paper on the rights of the minorities released in  1999 indicates that when New China was created (1949), the life expectancy for  minority peoples was 30 and that is now 60.  Clearly, the Chinese  government says that  life-expectancy among the minority peoples was very low (30) in 1949 and has increased two-fold in fifty years.   Another view asserts that the life  expectancy among the  Uyghur  population was substantially higher than other 'minority groups' and  that the effects of nuclear testings have contributed to negative  effects on  life-expectancy among the Uyghur  population.Which figures are to be believed ?Jack Churchward